You jump building....not crates...so no they are not working as designed. Come on man, the issue is I see you shot gunning a lot wearing them. So, you know they are much more powerful than "jumping on a crate". WTF

How about you be a CPM and actually listen to the 90% of the community who say they want these gone. People are tired of it and leaving the game. Honestly, even if they were actually Ok, but 90% of the community is not enjoying having it in the game it needs to go.

They work jack ****,anyone who came up with that idea is probably 15 year old screaming maggot.No separation,no regen penalty just remove that **** from the game and anyone who mention it again should get IP banned for life. I'm tired of that **** and that means newbies are more tired of that ****. I REFUSE to use jumping mods because it's not fair against any player in this game.But if this continues I hope you will lost 80% of players so those 20% can jump on each other heads.

Aeon man I just seen you a couple ******* weeks ago in a shotgun fit.. WTF. Guess someone impersonates you. You're a terrible CPM if you can't read that most people want them fixed. Here is some data for you, stack three myos and go to the mushroom map....You can jump every single build and wall on it, except the mushroom itself, and that only takes two jumps to get on top of. Do you play this game anymore? Triple myos clear entire buildings, a single myo on a nonheavy gets onto boxes. The issue here is that you are a myo scrub. You don't want to do what you were elected to do because you crutch the myos on pretty much every suit you wear. Seriously, do you not think we can't put them on as well, or see others kid jumping around? JUMP ON A CRATE>>>HAHAHA. I am still laughing about this.

Well, I don't need to use my engineering degree to tell you (without any Trig) they are not adding anything to game that most people enjoy. Squad with some randoms other that your buddies and ask them what they think. All I have seen so far from you as CPM has been really bad reasoning to defend your personal bias. Look at this thread alone. Vast majority of VOCAL (AKA active and money spending) customer's are saying fix it. Sorry if your personal play style suffers...

Think you need to check your maths there Bara; 3x proto myo on ak.0 assault, 4x feroscale plates and a rep, you can just get on top of a crate. speed with max skills is 6.98m (weirdly enough a slightly faster fit of the same suit but armour plates instead of feroscale means you can't jump onto the same box)

Myos are fine...The *ONLY* change needed to stop the scrubbery is to add a much harsher accuracy penalty when trying to jump AND shoot...That way players can shoot or they can jump -- But they will not be effective trying to do both at the same time...

Defending admittedly broken mechanics that have been called such by those who released them does nothing but paint you as someone who's simply looking for an excuse to argue a long settled debate.

If a mechanic's stacking penalty isn't applying properly, it's broken. By reducing the number you can stack you drop the jump height, but you also don't fix the issues within the module. The fact that they are broken is to the best of my knowledge a forgone discussion. They are not as broken as they once were, but still broken as alluded to by CCP Rattati in the Warlords 1.1 hotfix notes:



Except it isn't the same effect. Almost, but not really the same thing. You were meant to at max jump height be able to reach those heights mentioned in the quote, however since you only need 3 to do so (and be able to reach slightly more honestly) that leaves you with the opportunity to have free slots open while still maintaining the desired effect of the jump modules at maximum efficiency. I was thinking the broken status was obvious since the 4th and 5th module should have been negligible because of the reduction to the 2nd and 3rd which as far as I know do not occur. Please let me know if I am mistaken in this, I've been in and out of here for very large swaths of time and may have missed something, but to the best of my knowledge (and forum search abilities) this is the state of things: 3 mods stack without penalty providing somewhat more than the intended jump height. Which leads me to the other issues.

As for the hit detection issues with it being broken, please correct me if I'm wrong because I have been a bit lax in actually breaking down and testing it, I had assumed it was a generally accepted fact except for those who defend the modules. It appears obvious to me and many others I've seen post about them that quite often hit detection suffers about as much (though perhaps not quite as often) as when shooting at the strafing jiggle.

Not only this, but it allows for certain gunplay mechanics that were never intended in the game and throw off the regular basics of a fight, which I see as obvious since the jump height wasn't even a consideration in gunplay until it was pushed for long enough and hard enough to recieve attention.

Lastly allow me to say that I am not against the idea of being able to get a jump bonus for suits that need it at the cost of a module slot that could be used for more survivability. I'm also not against even an equipment that would give you a jump boost. However the purpose for jump mods was origionally to increase players ability to traverse the map. The result was a very abuseable (and widely abused) ability that breaks the basic gunfight mechanics that the game was built around.

When you put all of these together, or even any one of them on their own; whether or not anyone has said the exact words 'This is broken', I cannot help but see it as having been settled long ago that it was and is broken. And it has been said as quoted above (though I admit to a bit of a bending of phrasing) that as it is now is not how it was intended to be.

Pretty sure a CPM shouldn't say htfu, stfu or gtfo. You sgoukd argue both sides. In other words, be neutral. You, sir, are extremely bias. Not very good for a CPM. But what do I know. I just whine because people use bs exploits. But whatever. Have fun jumping.

You really sound like an ass.

I don't give a damn ifthey get removed or not. They need to be fixed, plain and simple. The mile high club is getting old.

Separation will not happen it they were combined to avoide certain problems.

Dispersion and recoil seems like a great idea but since most of the problem is really with explosives which have spash I do not see this as fixing the problem.

I was the first to publicly propose an adjustment to ADS and turn speed while in the air and I still stand by this. Basic physics makes it logical and it makes jumping actually skill based instead of jump/aim/spam.

Fortunately I know exactly what you mean by seeing if something can happen. I do not have any proposed numbers but I believe the most comprehensive fix would be to relate turn speed to time in flight. The more you are in the air the less control you have over your horizontal turn. Vertical should remain untouched as physically speaking looking up and down is not limited by being in the air.

If for some reason you want to go more in depth with that discussion feel free to drop me your skype, I could have sworn it use to be in your sig but I guess I was remembering wrong.

I'm not sure they can stop. The CPM said it himself, he uses the Myos. He defends them quite a bit. However...

The dispersion is a good idea and it will solve a lot of issues with most weapons. Plasma Cannon, Flaylock Pistol, Mass Driver are all excluded. The all have some form of splash damage. Changing dispersion will do nothing here.

Reducing turn speed will make things more a realistic change. This will help put a damper on all those sky high asshats being able to jump, spin and just headshot the crap out of us.

Adding an increase to the amount of stamina it takes to jump could also restore a sense of balance. You shouldn't be able jump through an entire city and still go for a run afterwards. It seems like the jumpers can just jump and jump and jump and jump..

He doesn't give a damn what you or I or anyone thinks of him.

Now, we need a CPM who can comment here and help us come up with a solution and understand the frustration brought on by the mile high club of scrubs in Dust514 without being so difficult.

That is what we are saying... Damn dude.

Add a stamina increase to stop the hopping
Reduce dispersion while jumping
Reduce turn speed while jumping
Add a delay between jumps (this is new)

I have no problem with them being used as either.

However, the constant hopping is nuts, just nuts. If they need to get their squad into or onto places, that's fine but all this sky high MD (explosives really) is ****. Period. There is a such a thing as too much. Come on man, you can't deny logic. I use these on my Commando but only to get over the small walls, nothing more. I only use militia variant. I can't bring myself to be "that guy" that everyone hates.

Then be nice!

Here's an idea!

Increase the game's tiny ass field of view so you can see targets that are slightly elevated when you're aiming at head level. Then you can retaliate against the easy floating targets who can't change their direction.
Seriously this game has an FOV of like 40.

Then armor tanking suits with myos are the problem. Shield tankers sacrifice 3 high slots to jump, and they melt like butter.